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A Question Of Torque by Andy Thomson

Andy ThomsonAt the recent RV Show there was a Chrysler Intrepid on display, hooked to a 7,000 pound Airstream trailer. There was a video of it towing the Airstream to California, so I guess it actually works. Did this car have aftermarket equipment to increase its tow capacity? And could the same extension of tow ratings be applied to pickup trucks that pull fifth wheels? We have a truck, but do not yet have a trailer. The pickup is a 2000 GMC 1500 series, 6,400 pound GVWR, 4.8 L V8 with automatic transmission and a 3.42 ratio rear-end. After a vacation in BC and Alberta we noticed many RVs on the road. It seemed that with a pickup truck already in hand, a good fit for us would be a fifth wheel trailer. However if one visits some of the internet forums, the general consensus is that you need a huge truck to pull almost anything. I wonder if this is just the some people's preponderance to have the biggest truck. Surely if a passenger car can pull 7,000 lbs. then a pick up truck can pull more! Our truck is a very civilized vehicle to drive when lightly loaded. It is much like a passenger car and probably gets fuel consumption rates not too far below the Intrepid. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts. Who wants to run around in a rough riding, noisy, smelly, diesel super truck when disconnected?

Regards,
John Garnish

Hi John,

Actually some people really like driving their super trucks. They are becoming much quieter and rarely are they smelly. However, they are still not as quiet, smooth or economical as your GMC 1500. The 4.8 L V gives excellent economy, likely the best in a pickup, and it performs very well. It can be used to tow a variety of trailers.

The Intrepid you saw at the RV Show was mine. It is completely stock, except for a transmission cooler and lower profile tires. Your assumption that because the truck is bigger than the Intrepid, it has to be a way better tow vehicle, is an easy one to make and it is often done. Instead of looking at the size of the vehicles, lets examine some of the factors that will affect how they perform as tow platforms.

First, lets calculate which vehicle will move weight most effectively when accelerating in low gear or climbing a steep hill. The Intrepid's engine produces 241 foot pounds of torque, which if we multiply by the gear ratios and divide by the tire radius, will tell us how much torque it can apply to the road. So, 241 foot pounds of torque, multiplied by the 2.84:1 first gear, multiplied by the 3.67:1 final drive, multiplied by the tire radius (measured in feet) of 1.07, gives us a total of 2,347 foot pounds which the Intrepid can apply to the road.

The way we were traveling this summer with people, bikes, water, etc. the combination had a total weight of 12,200 pounds. Or, 5.2 pounds for each foot pound of torque available.

If we do the same math for your truck, it works like this: 285 foot pounds of torque multiplied by 3.06:1 first gear multiplied by 3.42:1 final drive, divided by the tire diameter in feet of 1.25, giving 2,386 pounds of foot torque applied to the road. Since the pickup weighs 900 pounds more than the Intrepid, the total combination would weigh 13,100 lbs, or 5.5 pounds for each foot pound of torque available. So for simply moving weight up a steep hill or accelerating into traffic the truck really cannot do any more than the Intrepid. However, the good news is that it can handle 7,000 lbs. (Page Top)

The next thing to consider from a power perspective is, how much power will the truck have available to overcome aerodynamic drag and rolling resistance at highway speed? For this you need horsepower, and you need it at the RPM you cruise at in high gear. If you do not have enough horsepower at the right RPM, then the truck will be constantly shifting back to a lower gear to maintain speed, which is not good for the truck or for fuel economy.

These numbers are approximate because each combination is different and I don't have a wind tunnel. At 95 kph or 60 mph, the Intrepid is turning 2,880 RPM and it produces 150 horsepower at that RPM. The truck is turning 2,300 RPM at the same speed and it is producing about the same 150 horsepower. The Intrepid and Airstream combination requires 38 horsepower to move it through the air at 60 mph. At 60 most truck and fifth wheel combinations will require 70-90 horse power. The Intrepid's front drive has a bit less power requirement than the rear drive on the truck and the tires have less rolling resistance. It will need about 25 horsepower for rolling resistance and drive-train losses, where the truck will need about 35. Still, if you add it up the total for the truck and fifth wheel is 105 horsepower, and we have 150 available. This is great - until we meet a head wind.

Aerodynamic drag increases exponentially at the square of the speed. So a 20 mph head wind would increase the drag on a truck and fifth wheel from 70 to 130 horsepower. This is where it runs out of power.

We are often asked if a certain vehicle and trailer combination will make it in the mountains. We usually tell people not to worry about the mountains, but worry instead about three days across the open prairies into a 20 mph head wind.

One answer to this problem would be to change the axle ratio to a 4.10:1 which will increase the engine RPM to 2,760, further up on the power band of the engine, where it is likely producing a more attractive 190 horsepower.

You also need to be aware of the load capacity of the rear axle on your truck. Whereas 3/4 ton trucks have a 6,084-lb rear axle capacity, your truck has only 3,700 pound capacity. It will have about 2,000 pounds on the rear axle now - by the time you add a fifth wheel hitch and fill the fuel tank, you will be able to carry about 1,400 lbs of pin weight.

If you go with a fifth wheel, I would suggest installing the fifth wheel hitch - one that will slide with the trailer connected for easier maneuvering - right from the start. Then you can connect and tow several different fifth wheels before you finalize your purchase. If you tow into a head wind you will see how the different models perform aerodynamically. Further, you can tow it to a scale and weigh the rear axle of the truck. Remember to allow for loading of the trailer. Many fifths today have a large rear living area and bay windows, so there is very little storage behind the axles. Quite likely, 20 to 30 percent of the weight you add will be on the rear axle of the truck. I would be a bit wary of brochure weights, as sometimes the units get changed but the brochures do not.

The other option to consider is a travel trailer. Your truck has a short overhang compared to its wheelbase, a relatively low center of gravity, and good independent front suspension. A half-ton is generally much better suited to tow a trailer than a fifth wheel. The aerodynamic drag on a trailer is generally quite a bit less than that on a fifth wheel, likely because there's no goose neck area to catch the wind. You can tow a trailer and fifth wheel of the same height, weight, and roughly the same shape, and the trailer will have considerably less drag. The hitch weight on a travel trailer is less than a fifth wheel's pin weight, but more importantly, with an equalizing hitch it is distributed to all four wheels of the truck. A trailer with 800 pounds of hitch weight will put about 160 pounds on each truck tire. You may have heard people say that a fifth wheel tows much better than a trailer. But properly set up, a trailer can tow every bit as well as a fifth and in some instances, such as an emergency lane change, even out-perform one. Stopping distances are generally shorter with a travel trailer, as the some of the hitch weight is transferred to the front wheels of the tow vehicle, and because there is a higher percentage of the weight on the trailer wheels to begin with. Since the trailer has a much lower center of gravity, less weight is transferred from the trailer to the truck when stopping. An added bonus is that you leave the box free for carrying whatever you like to take with you.

When you equip your truck, I would suggest a direct-acting brake control, a transmission cooler, and you could change your P235/75R x 16" (passenger tires) to 225/75R x 16" LT (light truck) Load Range C tires. These will give slightly more power, economy and much better handling.

Good hunting, I'm sure you will find the perfect RV for you and your truck. (Page Top)


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